diff --git a/__init__.py b/__init__.py
index 958ffc9..e77ec4d 100644
--- a/__init__.py
+++ b/__init__.py
@@ -31,8 +31,7 @@ from servicemanager.base import ServiceManager, ServiceDown, UsageError, get_con
 from servicemanager.nicosman import NicosManager
 from servicemanager.seaman import SeaManager
 from servicemanager.frappyman import FrappyManager, Reconnect, Keep
-from servicemanager.sewebman import SewebManager
-from servicemanager.feederman import FeederManager
+from servicemanager.single import SewebManager, FeederManager
 #from servicemanager.racks import RackConfig
 
 
diff --git a/cfg/feeder@.service b/cfg/feeder@.service
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..f04b194
--- /dev/null
+++ b/cfg/feeder@.service
@@ -0,0 +1,11 @@
+[Unit]
+Description=sehistory feeder process
+
+[Service]
+Type=simple
+WorkingDirectory=/home/l_samenv/sehistory
+ExecStart=/usr/bin/python feeder.py -d %i
+Restart=always
+
+[Install]
+WantedBy=default.target
diff --git a/cfg/servicemanager.cfg b/cfg/servicemanager.cfg
index 4cff355..1afc377 100644
--- a/cfg/servicemanager.cfg
+++ b/cfg/servicemanager.cfg
@@ -19,11 +19,11 @@ sea_command = ./SeaServer %(serv)s.tcl
 
 SEWEB_ROOT = ~/seweb
 SEWEB_PORT = 8941
-seweb_command = ~/sevenv/bin/python secop-webserver %(port)s
+seweb_command = ~/sevenv/bin/python secop-webserver %(port)s -i %(ins)s
 
 FEEDER_ROOT = ~/sehistory
 FEEDER_PORT = 0
-feeder_command = ~/sevenv/bin/python feeder.py %(serv)s
+feeder_command = ~/sevenv/bin/python feeder.py -d %(serv)s
 
 PYTHONPATH = ~:~/frappy
 
diff --git a/cfg/seweb@.service b/cfg/seweb@.service
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..ac4fe9d
--- /dev/null
+++ b/cfg/seweb@.service
@@ -0,0 +1,11 @@
+[Unit]
+Description=SE web server
+
+[Service]
+Type=simple
+WorkingDirectory=/home/l_samenv/seweb
+ExecStart=/usr/bin/python secop-webserver -i %i
+Restart=always
+
+[Install]
+WantedBy=default.target
diff --git a/sewebman.py b/sewebman.py
deleted file mode 100644
index fbeeb4f..0000000
--- a/sewebman.py
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,38 +0,0 @@
-# *****************************************************************************
-#
-# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under
-# the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software
-# Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later
-# version.
-#
-# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT
-# ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS
-# FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU General Public License for more
-# details.
-#
-# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with
-# this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc.,
-# 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA  02111-1307  USA
-#
-# Module authors:
-#   Markus Zolliker <markus.zolliker@psi.ch>
-#
-# *****************************************************************************
-
-from servicemanager.base import ServiceManager
-
-
-class SewebManager(ServiceManager):
-    group = 'seweb'
-    services = ('',)
-    USAGE = """
-    Usage:
-
-      seweb start <instance>
-      seweb restart <instance>
-      seweb stop <instance>
-      seweb list [<instance>]
-
-      %s
-    """
-
diff --git a/feederman.py b/single.py
similarity index 53%
rename from feederman.py
rename to single.py
index d68a35e..8c57455 100644
--- a/feederman.py
+++ b/single.py
@@ -19,12 +19,49 @@
 #
 # *****************************************************************************
 
+import os
 from os.path import expanduser
 from configparser import ConfigParser
 from servicemanager.base import ServiceManager
 
 
-class FeederManager(ServiceManager):
+class SingleManager(ServiceManager):
+    """service to be started with systemd, only one per computer
+
+    running as systemd (user level)
+    """
+
+    def systemd_service(self, service):
+        """return the name of the systemd service"""
+        raise NotImplementedError
+
+    def treat_args(self, argdict, unknown=(), extra=()):
+        if not argdict.get('ins'):
+            argdict['ins'] = self.single_ins
+        return super().treat_args(argdict, unknown, extra)
+
+    def systemd_action(self, service, action):
+        service_ports = self.get_ins_info(self.single_ins)
+        services = list(service_ports) if service is None else [service]
+        for service in services:
+            print(f'systemctl --user {action} {self.group}@{service}')
+            os.system(f'systemctl --user {action} {self.systemd_service(service)}')
+
+    def do_start(self, ins, service=None, cfg='', restart=False, wait=False, logger=None, opts=''):
+        if wait:
+            super().do_start(ins, service, False, True, logger, opts)
+            return
+        if restart:
+            action = 'restart'
+        else:
+            action = 'start'
+        self.systemd_action(service, action)
+
+    def do_stop(self, ins, service=None, *args):
+        self.systemd_action(service, 'stop')
+
+
+class FeederManager(SingleManager):
     group = 'feeder'
     services = ('central', 'local')
     USAGE = """
@@ -45,7 +82,23 @@ class FeederManager(ServiceManager):
         self.services = services
         super().__init__()
 
-    def treat_args(self, argdict, unknown=(), extra=()):
-        if not argdict.get('ins'):
-            argdict['ins'] = self.single_ins
-        return super().treat_args(argdict, unknown, extra)
+    def systemd_service(self, service):
+        return f'{self.group}@{service}'
+
+
+class SewebManager(SingleManager):
+    group = 'seweb'
+    services = ('',)
+    USAGE = """
+    Usage:
+
+      seweb start <instance>
+      seweb restart <instance>
+      seweb stop <instance>
+      seweb list [<instance>]
+
+      %s
+    """
+
+    def systemd_service(self, service):
+        return f'{self.group}@{self.single_ins}'