diff --git a/examples/createdestroy b/examples/createdestroy
new file mode 160000
index 0000000..b64329f
--- /dev/null
+++ b/examples/createdestroy
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+Subproject commit b64329f789953dd7921d2426da3947950ccd6287
diff --git a/src/database/pvRecord.cpp b/src/database/pvRecord.cpp
index ec54b59..41f7c2f 100644
--- a/src/database/pvRecord.cpp
+++ b/src/database/pvRecord.cpp
@@ -108,12 +108,13 @@ PVRecord::~PVRecord()
     if(traceLevel>0) {
         cout << "~PVRecord() " << recordName << endl;
     }
-    notifyClients();
+//    notifyClients();
 }
 
 void PVRecord::remove()
 {
     PVDatabasePtr pvDatabase(PVDatabase::getMaster());
+    notifyClients();
     if(pvDatabase) pvDatabase->removeRecord(shared_from_this());
     pvTimeStamp.detach();     
     for(std::list<PVListenerWPtr>::iterator iter = pvListenerList.begin();