diff --git a/phoenix_bec/local_scripts/Examples/Learn_about_specific_classes/BaseClass_Epics.py b/phoenix_bec/local_scripts/Examples/Learn_about_specific_classes/BaseClass_Epics.py
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+import epics as ep
+
+################
+#  Testing base class epics
+#  The raw code is located in the file
+#  bec_client_venv/lib64/python3.11/site-packages/epics/__init__.py
+# in bec start script by run -i
+# option -i ensures taht iphyjon shell and scritp are in same namespace
+# run -i BaseClass_Epics.py
+
+
+pvname='X07MB-OP2-SAI_07:INP-OFS'
+
+print('ep.cainfo(pvname)')
+ep.cainfo(pvname)
+print('caget(pvname)')
+
+ep.caput(pvname,0.5,wait=.1)
+res=ep.caget(pvname)
+print('1:',res)
+ep.caput(pvname,0.01,wait=.1)
+res=ep.caget(pvname)
+print('2',res)
+print('Start camon to see effect , change value of pv ')
+ep.camonitor(pvname)
diff --git a/phoenix_bec/local_scripts/Examples/Learn_about_using_bec/DefiningEpics_Channels.py b/phoenix_bec/local_scripts/Examples/Learn_about_using_bec/DefiningEpics_Channels.py
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+from ophyd import Device, EpicsMotor, EpicsSignal, EpicsSignalRO
+from ophyd import Component as Cpt
+
+#option I via direct acces to classes
+
+ScanX = EpicsMotor(name='ScanX',prefix='X07MB-ES-MA1:ScanX')
+ScanY = EpicsMotor(name='ScanY',prefix='X07MB-ES-MA1:ScanY')
+DIODE = EpicsSignal(name='SI',read_pv='X07MB-OP2-SAI_07:MEAN')
+SMPL   = EpicsSignal(name='SMPL',read_pv='X07MB-OP2:SMPL')
+CYCLES = EpicsSignal(name='SMPL',read_pv='X07MB-OP2:TOTAL-CYCLES',write_pv='X07MB-OP2:TOTAL-CYCLES')
+
+# Option 2 using component
+
+class StageXY(Device):
+    x = Cpt(EpicsMotor, 'ScanX')
+    y = Cpt(EpicsMotor, 'ScanY')
+
+xy_stage = StageXY('X07MB-ES-MA1:', name='stage')
+
+#############################################
+# This is basic bluesky
+# Epics motor def seems to use init params in device, whcih are
+# __init__(
+#        self,
+#        prefix="",
+#        *,
+#        name,
+#        kind=None,
+#        read_attrs=None,
+#        configuration_attrs=None,
+#        parent=None,
+#        **kwargs,
+#    ):
+#
+#########################################################
+
+# to move motor use
+# stage.x.move(0)
+# to see all dict
+# stage.x.__dict__